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		<title>By: David van Aalst</title>
		<link>http://oktobeginwith.com/blog/2009/10/24/you-have-entered-the-twilight-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-178</link>
		<dc:creator>David van Aalst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>String theory. I tell you, I can never figure out how long it&#039;s meant to be, and it always leaves my mind in knots.

But I think &#039;potential to be infinite&#039; is a great sum-up of a much more complex discussion. Space is as small and restricted as our observation of it, and the more and more we become aware of and experience it, the larger existence becomes.

The closest I get to supernatural beliefs is enough &#039;faith&#039; that the tree is happy to fall, and I&#039;m happy to hear the sound, without the rest of the concept complicating issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>String theory. I tell you, I can never figure out how long it&#8217;s meant to be, and it always leaves my mind in knots.</p>
<p>But I think &#8216;potential to be infinite&#8217; is a great sum-up of a much more complex discussion. Space is as small and restricted as our observation of it, and the more and more we become aware of and experience it, the larger existence becomes.</p>
<p>The closest I get to supernatural beliefs is enough &#8216;faith&#8217; that the tree is happy to fall, and I&#8217;m happy to hear the sound, without the rest of the concept complicating issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew McMahon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew McMahon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 04:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any time :P</description>
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		<title>By: Bazza</title>
		<link>http://oktobeginwith.com/blog/2009/10/24/you-have-entered-the-twilight-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-176</link>
		<dc:creator>Bazza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the discussion :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the discussion :)</p>
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		<title>By: Drew McMahon</title>
		<link>http://oktobeginwith.com/blog/2009/10/24/you-have-entered-the-twilight-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-175</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew McMahon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 05:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>String theory has a crack at explaining that by getting quite scifi :P

The idea is that there are teeny tiny strings that make up sub-atomic particles and quantum forces, and then there are huge strings that exist between (or around) dimensions in space and time. These strings are loose, and wave around. When two of them collide together, the force of the collision creates a big bang. It&#039;s really quite elegant, but only if you&#039;re willing to step into science fiction a little further than you should really have to.

I think our biggest problem with trying to understand &quot;intelligent design&quot; (and oh Lord how i hate that term), is that we tend to personify the Creator. Any being that is powerful enough to create a universe couldn&#039;t possibly exist in the realms of our understanding. In fact, I would think that at the end of the day, there wouldn&#039;t be a huge amount of difference either way - we simply don&#039;t have the capacity to understand a plan of that scale, and I think that our understanding of it will never surpass knowledge of the mechanics and physics of how it was done.

I&#039;m giving away far too much great blogging material in the comments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>String theory has a crack at explaining that by getting quite scifi :P</p>
<p>The idea is that there are teeny tiny strings that make up sub-atomic particles and quantum forces, and then there are huge strings that exist between (or around) dimensions in space and time. These strings are loose, and wave around. When two of them collide together, the force of the collision creates a big bang. It&#8217;s really quite elegant, but only if you&#8217;re willing to step into science fiction a little further than you should really have to.</p>
<p>I think our biggest problem with trying to understand &#8220;intelligent design&#8221; (and oh Lord how i hate that term), is that we tend to personify the Creator. Any being that is powerful enough to create a universe couldn&#8217;t possibly exist in the realms of our understanding. In fact, I would think that at the end of the day, there wouldn&#8217;t be a huge amount of difference either way &#8211; we simply don&#8217;t have the capacity to understand a plan of that scale, and I think that our understanding of it will never surpass knowledge of the mechanics and physics of how it was done.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m giving away far too much great blogging material in the comments!</p>
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		<title>By: Bazza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bazza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The trouble is with the string theory, they cant prove it as it would be quite costly to produce the feats of enginering required. I would have to agree with you when you say it hurts your brain, however if there was a big bang that started the universe, then what was here before the big bang? something had to have caused it!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trouble is with the string theory, they cant prove it as it would be quite costly to produce the feats of enginering required. I would have to agree with you when you say it hurts your brain, however if there was a big bang that started the universe, then what was here before the big bang? something had to have caused it!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bazza</title>
		<link>http://oktobeginwith.com/blog/2009/10/24/you-have-entered-the-twilight-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-173</link>
		<dc:creator>Bazza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes we did have to start somewhere as if there was no starting point we would not exist, but it would be interesting to find out just how far space actually goes, (if there is an end or not). We could be someones experiment in a vacum in a bottle for all we know !! But I do believe that if you look closely at creation and how things are made it is a marvelous wonder and someone created all of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes we did have to start somewhere as if there was no starting point we would not exist, but it would be interesting to find out just how far space actually goes, (if there is an end or not). We could be someones experiment in a vacum in a bottle for all we know !! But I do believe that if you look closely at creation and how things are made it is a marvelous wonder and someone created all of this.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew McMahon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew McMahon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well i now stand corrected :P

I&#039;m quite a fan of string theory, and the theory that there were/are multiple big bangs, recursively projecting matter into infinite space. Of course, space can only exist if there is a point of reference for it (matter), and time only exists if there is something for it to effect (just as a one-dimensional object can only be measured if given another dimension as a reference point).

So it&#039;s possible space is not infinite or finite, but semi-infinite - it has the capacity for an infinite amount of matter, but the actual space is restricted by the amount of matter in it. Of course, all that makes my brain hurt :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well i now stand corrected :P</p>
<p>I&#8217;m quite a fan of string theory, and the theory that there were/are multiple big bangs, recursively projecting matter into infinite space. Of course, space can only exist if there is a point of reference for it (matter), and time only exists if there is something for it to effect (just as a one-dimensional object can only be measured if given another dimension as a reference point).</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s possible space is not infinite or finite, but semi-infinite &#8211; it has the capacity for an infinite amount of matter, but the actual space is restricted by the amount of matter in it. Of course, all that makes my brain hurt :)</p>
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		<title>By: Bazza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bazza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh please I wasnt correcting you, I was just wondering what made you think that space was infinite thats all :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh please I wasnt correcting you, I was just wondering what made you think that space was infinite thats all :)</p>
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		<title>By: Drew McMahon</title>
		<link>http://oktobeginwith.com/blog/2009/10/24/you-have-entered-the-twilight-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-170</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew McMahon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 06:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose I should have said &quot;potential to be infinite&quot;. While, as far as science knows, you are right to correct me, there is indeed an infinite potential to space. And of course, depending on whether you consider string theory to be plausible, space very well could already have an infinite dimension.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose I should have said &#8220;potential to be infinite&#8221;. While, as far as science knows, you are right to correct me, there is indeed an infinite potential to space. And of course, depending on whether you consider string theory to be plausible, space very well could already have an infinite dimension.</p>
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		<title>By: Bazza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bazza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 06:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tell me, what makes you think that space is infinite?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell me, what makes you think that space is infinite?</p>
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